Premise ONE

The cosmos will do what ever is necessary to be consistent with itself.

This premise is simple a rephrasing of an idea that TP introduced at telic thoughts.

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My modest philosophical suggestion is that a possible purpose of the universe is to do whatever it takes to exist and be consistent with itself.
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My head hurts just trying to understand the basics of QM and I don’t think that this discussion will hinge on the subtleties of that discipline so I won’t go into detail as to why TP believes premise one is true. TP might want to fill us in on any details that he feels are relevant in this regard.

This sort of thing sounds to my ears to be pantheistic but instead of flowing from ancient Hinduism or Buddhism it is actually based on a sort of scientific neo pantheism that you find in consciousness centered interpretations of Quantum Mechanics like the Orch OR hypothesis.


You will also hear this sort of neo pantheistic statement made in the omega point type hypothesis that you find in such books as Robert Wright’s Nonzero http://www.nonzero.org/and Pierre Teilhard de Chardin’s The Phenomenon of Man The first time I came across this kind of thing was in Tipler’s work the Physics of Immortalalty.

For folks like Tipler and Wright this sort of thinking seems to be rooted in among other things the strong Anthropic principle pared with QM but if we wished to avoid all philosophical baggage we could convey basically the same concept using language flowing from a weak anthropic principal for example we could say

A Cosmos must be consistent In order for us to observe it.
Or
Only a Cosmos that is consistent will contain observers.

As a Christian I prefer to ground axioms of this type in the God of the Bible instead of the creation and I am in lucky because consistency is a major attribute of the Christian God that is according to scripture reflected in his created universe.

119:89Yahweh, your word is settled in heaven forever.
119:90Your faithfulness is to all generations. You have established the earth, and it remains.
119:91Your laws remain to this day, For all things serve you.

This verse conveys the same concept as our 1st premises namely that the universe will be consistent but instead of the Cosmos itself insuring that consistency it is grounded in the faithfulness (consistency) of God. Therefore a Christian might say:

If the Cosmos is not consistent its creator is not faithful and therefore not worthy of worship.

You can see that with a little explanation premise one can be accepted by Christians as well as folks like TP. We have already brought to light hidden agreements between two sides of the culture war and we are just getting warmed up
This agreement does not extend to everyone some nihilists don’t expect to see consistency in the cosmos and in some forms of Monotheism the sovereignty of God is emphasized at the expense of this kind of consistency. In Islam for example God is pictured as being above his laws so that he is not in any way bound by them. Allah is under no obligation to follow natural laws. He does as he pleases.
It is important to note that an inconsistent can’t be trusted anything might happen at anytime in a world like this Science and theology are both impossible.
If we are on the same page and TP has no major objections we will next move to the more contentious premise two.
Peace